IamtheMumma Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, RynandStompy said: This (courtesy of Rick Morton) was a legal costs fee table recently available . "This is just for inquiry hearings, not the report itself if that is required of them. " So I don't know if they'd still have taxpayer funded representation, if they appeared in a subsequent civil or criminal prosecution. Yes its the dole bludgers and single mums that are rorting the system. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meepy Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Inhumane arseholes who deserve to live on the dole for the rest of their lives. Should pay restitution to their victims from their personal wealth. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContentedFleur Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Ozgirl said: Would the taxpayer pay for the civil charges? That are.laod now? Don't know. However, if I get a say, I would like my taxes to go to the prosecuting of said charges, and for the defendants to be personally funded. NOT, and I cannot emphasise this enough, the other way around. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie28 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, ContentedFleur said: Don't know. However, if I get a say, I would like my taxes to go to the prosecuting of said charges, and for the defendants to be personally funded. NOT, and I cannot emphasise this enough, the other way around. Rest assured, taxpayers will be paying for the prosecution too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/11/debt-collectors-face-calls-to-return-116m-retrieved-under-unlawful-robodebt-scheme I must admit the debt collector who was calling our daughter was quite civilised, however he did want to 'set up an account' over the phone with her bank account details, which she refused to do. By the time she engaged with them, we'd been to Centrelink and established that if you told them you were disputing the debt, they had no right to any further information from you, than they already had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yogaalaates Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ContentedFleur said: If I had a dart board… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajo Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I know of this family, and can not even begin to imagine the heart break they have been through - they have attempted for the last few years to gain information on the correspondence between Centrelink and their son/brother https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101019506 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StillFreddiesMum Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 I cried reading the news reports when the Commissioner handed down her findings. Actually crying over the people who lost loved ones who commmited suicide for debts they didn't owe but were hounded for. Excuse my shouting but the GALL of these right wing policitians who go to Church and say they are CHRISTIANS who act and do the the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus would have done. If there is a hell I truly truly truly hope that Scott Morrison et al all end up in hell. 10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamferalz Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Morrison acts like there is no God actually watching him, with no sense of shame, taking responsibility or self reflection. He wears his christianity as a political affiliation. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryMadigralMadge Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Isn’t it the issue with people who believe that God/Jesus guide every decision, that then can’t admit wrong because that means God/Jesus was wrong? The unsurprising truth is that an informed understanding of the PM’s political career is impossible without considering his religion. His ability to maintain an unflinching self-belief and sense of righteousness through the dramatic U-turns that have characterised his rise to power reflects a central paradox of Pentecostal dogma and practice. Pentecostalism is in fact the perfect faith for a conviction politician without convictions. https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2019/february/james-boyce/devil-and-scott-morrison#mtr 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryMadigralMadge Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Finally…still employed but at least suspended without pay. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaFreya Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 This is why it’s a good idea to ask obvious questions, even if you think you know the answer. Would you rather look stupid or act in a criminal way? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagic Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 That's great, but I want the ministers done for it. They were told it was illegal and they absolutely bullied and pushed for it. And they knew what was happening and let it go on. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ContentedFleur Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, pelagic said: That's great, but I want the ministers done for it. They were told it was illegal and they absolutely bullied and pushed for it. And they knew what was happening and let it go on. YES. THIS. I want criminal charges. I want jail sentences. I want some form of justice for the lives that were so callously, viciously destroyed by people who put money in front of humans. (I'd also quite like Scummo, and Stuart Roberts, and Marise Payne, and Christian Porter tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets of Canberra, but that's my angry vengeful side coming out, and I try to keep it down.) 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrankyM Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, ContentedFleur said: YES. THIS. I want criminal charges. I want jail sentences. I want some form of justice for the lives that were so callously, viciously destroyed by people who put money in front of humans. (I'd also quite like Scummo, and Stuart Roberts, and Marise Payne, and Christian Porter tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets of Canberra, but that's my angry vengeful side coming out, and I try to keep it down.) I want criminal charges because as a citizen of this country I want these awful politicians to be held accountable in such a way that their names are dirt and they are forever smeared with a criminal record displaying how much they damaged lives. So next time people get into power, they actually contemplate the fact that they are not beyond consequences and the law. 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It was a small bright spot in my daughter's day to see that Kathryn Campbell had been suspended without pay. It's just so sad that some are not around to get any satisfaction that finally, the people responsible are starting to face the music. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Am i too cynical to think that the first person 'punished' is a women that she will be the only one and therefore a convenient scapegoat? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ozgirl said: Am i too cynical to think that the first person 'punished' is a women that she will be the only one and therefore a convenient scapegoat? Good point, but she's currently in a $900k a year job, I don't think she's been a shrinking violet along the way. Isn't she the top public servant involved? I thought all of the others were the politicans, which is a different kettle of fish in terms of liability. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplekitty Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Campbell should be punished to the full extent of the law. Her testimony was infuriating. The antithesis of what an impartial,professional public servant should be. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Bornagirl said: Good point, but she's currently in a $900k a year job, I don't think she's been a shrinking violet along the way. Isn't she the top public servant involved? I thought all of the others were the politicans, which is a different kettle of fish in terms of liability. I suppose I’m just annoyed that conveniently it’s a female who is booted first. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ozgirl said: I suppose I’m just annoyed that conveniently it’s a female who is booted first. Understandable. I feel that by working daily for Monique Ryan to be elected, the first one personally, for me, was Frydenberg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley225 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 You can't ignore her role, and she is the most to blame in some ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornagirl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lesley225 said: You can't ignore her role, and she is the most to blame in some ways. I'm definitely not ignoring it, but they are all equally to blame. The politicians couldn't have kept promoting it if the public service didn't support it, and the public service couldn't carry it out, if the politicians didn't support it. There are quite a few things that need to happen, and one of them was a change of government - that was one thing I DID have control over, so that the head of the country couldn't continue supporting the scheme. I just said that Frydenberg was the first to fall on his sword in this electorate, a starting point for unravelling the whole disaster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley225 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Oh I think Scott Morrison is equally to blame and should be charged with something but she enabled them. There are many to blame over many years but the two I hold most responsible is Morrison and her. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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